Dell Laptop

Dell Laptop

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Posted by hbomb on Mon, 2006-05-01 15:12 in

Just bought a new Dell 1505
Intel® Core™ Duo processor T2300 (2MB Cache/1.66GHz/667MHz FSB
15.4 inch UltraSharp™ Wide Screen SXGA+ Display with TrueLife™  (1680 X 1050)
1GB Shared Dual Channel DDR2 SDRAM at 533MHz
80GB 5400rpm SATA Hard Drive  (the 7200 RPM was like 225 more so i didn't get it)
128MB ATI MOBILITY™ RADEON® X1300 HyperMemory
Dual layer DVD Burner, Bluetootch 

 Not the best laptop by any means, but it has a better resolution that the 15inch Mac Book Pro and close to the same processor.  One thing the MBP has is the x1600 card over this x1300.

 

I'm hoping it'll be good enough to run Vista later this year.  Do you think its a good deal, it cost < 1100 after tax. 

Cheapo Lappies

Honestly, I just ordered about the same exact thing for a customer of mine. We got a scratch and dent model for about $800 with next day shipping.

 

It's kinda crazy how they can sell these things at such a loss. Just to buy the parts without the display or keyboard would probably cost like $600 alone, so they're basically giving you a free chassis. Nutz I tell ya!

 

It should be enough to run Vista OK. With 128mb of GRAM you'll be limited to only having a couple windows open at a time. 256mb would've been better, but the pixel processing power should be there with the x1300.

 

Be sure to wipe the hard drive as soon as it shows up and do a fresh Windows install. If you want, bring it up here and I'll straighten it out. You don't want that myway and other assorted bloatware holding you back. 

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Posted by Nate on Tue, 2006-05-02 11:05
The only thing i'm not

The only thing i'm not completely sure about will be the pre-installed McAfee that my parents paid for.  Although I'm sure I could just re-install that by itself.  Also, I think I may have read that the HD is fat32 instead of the other way.  That's a good idea reformatting, I never would have though about doing that but its a good plan.

 

I'm gonna eventually put the 667 speed RAM in there, but probably in August. 

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Posted by hbomb on Tue, 2006-05-02 20:08
AV and RAM

If Dell is shipping Windows XP machines with FAT32 they've really lost it. NTFS is the way to go by far. Even on my iMac I used NTFS even though it sacrificed a little functionality. NTFS is what is known as a journaling filesystem which keeps a record of all the reads and writes should have occured to repair itself in case of a powerdown. FAT32 doesn't.

 

I doubt you'd notice much of a speed up going from the 533 to the 667, honestly. The 1.66ghz Duo isn't going to need a whole lot of memory bandwidth, although latency would be helped. Once you start puttering around in there, I'm sure you'll have plenty of horsepower. I'd be interested to see if having one or two sticks will help out on that platform however. On the iMac, there's virtually no difference what soever between single and dual channel memory.

 

Wipe the drive man. You'll be much happier with a stock install. If you didn't get the optional Windows XP CD, just let me know. That restore disk will just put the same crud back in there. 

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Posted by Nate on Wed, 2006-05-03 08:57
Yeah i got the "genuine

Yeah i got the "genuine windows" re-install disk.  But I'll prob put Vista on whenever I figure out which of their 5 versions I should use...HA. 

Just found out my order date has changed, now it's set to ship on the 9th(it was the 8th yesterday).  I ordered it sunday so they are saying 6 working days just to ship, which I'm kinda mad about.  I guess it's b/c i didn't get the base system, but I doubt too many people do so I don't know what the hold up is. 

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Posted by hbomb on Wed, 2006-05-03 15:58
Availability

I'm pretty sure Dell is getting creamed on orders for that thing. I actually ordered up a refurb from the Dell Outlet and it shipped in like 24 hours, was at the door in like 72 max. Plus I saved the customer like $300 on it. Granted, it wasn't perfect, but you can't beat the price or shipping time.

 

    I'll let you know when a public Vista beta pops up. You'll probably want to just repartition the drive to have a XP and Vista dual-boot setup, I don't think Vista will be ready for primetime for a while yet, there's even some talk about the launch getting shoved up to like April now. It's only like a year late as is, why not tack on a few more weeks  

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Posted by Nate on Thu, 2006-05-04 09:18
Ha, figures. Maybe they'll

Ha, figures.  Maybe they'll do a better job than they did with XP when they first released it.

So they changed my date again from shipping on the 9th to being here tomorrow, Friday.  I guess I can't complain. 

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Posted by hbomb on Thu, 2006-05-04 13:23
Sweet

Hey that's good news. If it shows up by the weekend, maybe you can make a trip up here to get the labotomy.

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Posted by Nate on Thu, 2006-05-04 17:44
pcmark05 System Test Suite

pcmark05 

System Test Suite

HDD - XP Startup 5.56 MB/s
Physics and 3D 65.51 FPS
Transparent Windows Test failed
3D - Pixel Shader 30.77 FPS
Web Page Rendering 2.5 Pages/s
File Decryption 41.51 MB/s
Graphics Memory - 64 Lines 280.0 FPS
HDD - General Usage 3.75 MB/s
Multithreaded Test 1 / Audio Compression N/A
Multithreaded Test 1 / Video Encoding Test failed
Multithreaded Test 2 / Text Edit 89.46 Pages/s
Multithreaded Test 2 / Image Decompression 19.7 MPixels/s
Multithreaded Test 3 / File Compression 2.83 MB/s
Multithreaded Test 3 / File Encryption 36.82 MB/s
Multithreaded Test 3 / HDD - Virus Scan 10.62 MB/s
Multithreaded Test 3 / Memory Latency - Random 16 MB 7.32 MAccesses/s
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Posted by hbomb on Sat, 2006-05-06 12:21
That doesn't look too good.

That doesn't look too good. The only times I've had PCMark not run a test is when memory was too overclocked or something. You may want to download memtestx86 and check that out.

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Posted by Nate on Sat, 2006-05-06 20:30
It failed b/c i had my

It failed b/c i had my laptop set to "best performance" versus best appearance.  I also had to download something.  I forget what it was, maybe a directX plugin or something.  I'm gonna run it again soon, I'll let you know how it goes.

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Posted by hbomb on Mon, 2006-05-08 21:28
I didnt have Media Encoder

 I didnt have Media Encoder 9 installed, so here's the new results

HDD - XP Startup 5.52 MB/s
Physics and 3D 65.5 FPS
Transparent Windows 86.88 Windows/s
3D - Pixel Shader 30.78 FPS
Web Page Rendering 2.23 Pages/s
File Decryption 41.51 MB/s
Graphics Memory - 64 Lines 280.05 FPS
HDD - General Usage 3.73 MB/s
Multithreaded Test 1 / Audio Compression 1647.61 KB/s
Multithreaded Test 1 / Video Encoding 265.78 KB/s
Multithreaded Test 2 / Text Edit 88.99 Pages/s
Multithreaded Test 2 / Image Decompression 19.7 MPixels/s
Multithreaded Test 3 / File Compression 3.77 MB/s
Multithreaded Test 3 / File Encryption 20.15 MB/s
Multithreaded Test 3 / HDD - Virus Scan 14.1 MB/s

Multithreaded Test 3 / Memory Latency - Random 16 MB

 

2646  PCMarks 

 

7.01 MAccesses/s

 

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Posted by hbomb on Mon, 2006-05-08 21:53
Also, how can I force my

Also, how can I force my video card to use more RAM.  It doesn't appear to be using any and I thought it would take at least 64 to go with the 64 it already has to equal 128.  Anyway, let me know how it fairs.

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Posted by hbomb on Mon, 2006-05-08 22:27
Umm, hopefully Dell's

Umm, hopefully Dell's drivers include the Catalyst Control Center, but I can't guarantee that. ATI's standard mobility drivers don't support Dell lappies, so you're kinda SOL on that one. ATI uses a Hypermemory thing that dynamically grabs RAM when it needs it, so it may not show until you run a 3d app.

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Posted by Nate on Tue, 2006-05-09 11:19
Check out the link

You can compare to my iMac here. My desktop wooped up on most everything coming in around 4200 marks. The Core Duo wins in the multi-threaded stuff, as expected, but apart from that my rig is substancially quicker.

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Posted by Nate on Tue, 2006-05-09 11:22
Yeah it has the CCC. I

Yeah it has the CCC.  I guess thats why it doesn't show up as using any RAM under the system profile or whatever its called in windows.

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Posted by hbomb on Tue, 2006-05-09 12:19